Great leaders are like Sherpas

- [Interviewer] Let's talk a little bit about the Sherpa. So you're using this as a metaphor of great leadership. And why the Sherpa? - [Interviewee] Trying to explain this, like I'm doing here, is we basically said what is the metaphor? At Angiant, in our company, what we do is we take really complex ideas and make them simple enough. So the metaphor we use was Mount Everest, but specifically the Sherpa on Mount Everest, which is the people group of Mount Everest who were born at 14,000 feet. They basically are helping people get to the next level. So they're synonymous with leading people up the mountain. And so the idea is that most leaders think of leadership as like them climbing to the top, and that that's leadership. I'm like, "Well, that's part of it. We want you to get acclimated so you can make it to the peak. But the process of leadership is not about you climbing the mountain, it's actually when you get back…