Power and inclusion

- [Man] Can we talk a little bit about the role that power plays in inclusion. Do you think that you can have inclusion of underrepresented employees without granting them some authority within the organization that they operate? - [Woman] No, in short, right? But, I think it sort of goes back to definition. So, when we think about the moral imperative, there's a power dynamic in that as well, right? Because what we're saying, if you say it's a moral imperative, is we're sort of putting it in the same box as charity. Like, this is a good will, right? A charitable act that I will do for these underrepresented groups is to bring them into the conversation. So, I think that's another reason I feel very strongly about reframing inclusion and bias around performance, because I think it's not a, it's not a charity, right? There's an actual end result. There's whole populations we're leaving out of organizations and that is…