Stay relaxed but attentive in your silence

- [Interviewee] When it comes to silence, if you're at all overwhelmed by meditation, or anything like that, set a timer on your phone for 10 minutes, and be in silence for 10 minutes. That's it. The only way you can fail is if you judge yourself, for any part of your experience. If you go, Oh, I shouldn't be having these thoughts. Oh, I shouldn't be thinking. Oh, I shouldn't be feeling this way. Oh, I shouldn't have thought of that way. That's the only way you can fail at silence is to, to judge your experience. - [Interviewer] Mhmm - [Interviewee] If you just sit there in silence, you cannot help, but get value. It lowers your cortisol levels. When you sit in silence, it's scientifically proven, there are over 1400 scientific studies, that prove the benefits of meditation. Now, granted, if you are intentionally thinking stressful thoughts, I don't know that that would achieve that objective, right? And that's…