From the course: Revit: Phasing and Design Options

Wall joins with phasing - Revit Architecture Tutorial

From the course: Revit: Phasing and Design Options

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Wall joins with phasing

- [Instructor] In this video, I want to talk about the wall joins. Now, when you start adding phasing to your projects, you will sometimes have some difficulty getting the wall joins to behave exactly the way you like. So what I'd like to share with you in this video is a few techniques you can use to make adjustments to the wall joins and try and whip them into shape a little. So this is not unique to phasing. Wall joins is a feature that you will use in other scenarios as well but we do run into it a lot when dealing with phasing. Okay, so I'm zoomed in here on a demolition plan, showing this connection here between these three walls and the corresponding connection here down at the bottom between those three walls. And if we kind of focus our attention on this wall for the moment, you can see that it's stopping and starting at the center line of the top and bottom walls there. And I probably want it to go all the way to the edge of the wall on either the top or bottom edge instead. So how can we do that? Well, we've got a few technique we can try. So the first technique that I want to share with you is on the Modify tab, on the Geometry panel, we're going to use the Edit Wall Joins tool. So you just click this Wall Joins button and the way this works is you simply move your mouse over an intersection that you want to consider and then that little box appears and you click and it will now focus the tool on that intersection. So we've now got that one intersection selected and that exposes several buttons here on the Options bar. There's a next and a previous button right here and all you need to do is click either Next and Previous to cycle through the various possibilities. So in this case, we're going to demolish all the way up to where the other wall meets and leave the existing wall just in the top portion. Alternatively, we could click Next a few more times. And it might take two or three clicks and maybe look at that possibility. So in this case, I think I like that a little bit better. So that's the one I'm going to go with. So we can stay right in the tool and just simply click on a different intersection to continue. So once again, I will start clicking Next and look at some of the possibilities here but notice that as I cycle through them, I'm not getting one that matches what we did at the top. The closest that I'm getting is this condition but it's leaving that little gap right there, which is really unsightly. So what do we do about that? Well, when you run into a situation like this where the Edit Wall Join tools just refuses to give you the condition you want, then often you don't have a choice but to turn on the Disallow Join option here. So what this does is it just disables the join all together. Notice that all the walls are now running right into one another. And I'm still in the Edit Wall Joins command. So this is something you've got to be careful of. Notice that I'm still in that feature. So click the Modify tool to cancel out of there before you continue. And now what I'll do is let me just zoom in a little bit here and now you can adjust each of these walls manually. So I find the easiest way to do that is to often just select the little grip control here at the end and kind of pull that wall away and then you can drag it back and it's usually a little bit easier to snap it that way. Another alternative is to just use the Align tool. So I'll go to Align and then use the top edge of this wall as an alignment reference and then I will tab into that one and then I will do it again and no need to tab this time. Now, notice that I'm getting a warning that tells me that highlighted walls overlap. Let's cancel out of this command and click anywhere to dismiss that warning. There aren't any overlapping walls, so why is it saying that? Well, this starts to give you a little bit of a hint as to what the problem actually is and why the edit wall join didn't work in the first place. Remember that this view is only showing the existing and the demolition and so the reason that we're getting this problem in this condition is there's actually a new wall there that's being hidden from view but even though the wall is hidden, it's still trying to influence the wall join. So my suspicion is that that's what's causing us the problem here. So you might want to look at another view, like your Phase 2 New here and there you can see the overlapping wall condition. And so you'd need to adjust this wall as well. So I'll leave that to you to do on your own. Meanwhile, I'm going to switch to a different view here. So Phase 1 New. And then focus in on these two temporary walls that I've added here and here. So this is the same sort of scenario. Start with edit wall joins and see what you get. So I'll click here and unfortunately, the next and previous buttons aren't even available. So there's really no options that Revit can see for editing these wall joins. So I'll cancel out of the command and let me show you an alternative. We could use the Disallow Joins like I showed you a moment ago but a shortcut is to right click right on the drag control at the end and there's Disallow Join right there. And then I can modify it and in fact, if you want the other end to look the same, then do Disallow Join again and bring that until it snaps to there and now it looks like this. So I welcome you to continue in this file, editing other wall joins to get them to your liking. And I always like to start with the Edit Wall Joins tool first and see if it gives me something acceptable and then if it doesn't, you can resort to disabling the joins and that usually helps you clean up the problem.

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